Some gobelines greats

[NOOB!]

heres some of the latest great shorts from this years graduates at gobelines in france.:D

Enjoy (right click > save as)

Pyrats my fave,check out www.pyrats.net too..

http://www.goblins-medias.com/annecy2006/sebastien_LAN.mov

Sebastien
http://www.goblins-medias.com/annecy2006/sebastien_LAN.mov

Traintamarre
http://www.goblins-medias.com/annecy2006/traintamarre_LAN.mov

not as good as some of the recent movies,but good none the less.

more here

http://www.gobelins.fr/galerie/animation/

check out *burning safari* 3d movie,pretty funny hehe!

[KOTK]

Awesome. I'll check 'em out after I finish watching Howl's Moving Castle. :cool:

[elephant]

I wish I could go to Les Gobelins :( They're bloody amazing.

edit Finished watching the Pyrats. It's just unbelievable how a bunch of students can make better animations than many professional studios.

edit 2 Haha, I've actually talked to the girl who designed most of the characters in "Sebastian". Thanks for posting these NOOB!, it seems I haven't watched them yet.

[NOOB!]

heh no prob,been following the production of pyrats for a while now

they had a blog going www.pyrats.blogspot.com,and the behind the scenes on each of the team members is great on www.pyrats.net

i'll try to get some of em over here eventually,not sure how many of them actually speak english though i know one or two do.

i'm sure sangfroid will tell us all about em when he gets back from annecy anyway.

now i will go drool of some of the background work...

[Terro]

How come I didn't know anythign about this ? Great find noob.:p

[vicjperry]

Beautiful piece. Will they be releasing it to the public in English? I want to see it.

[Terro]

One of these days someone needs to teach me how to texture 3D to make them look like 2D. The town homes in Pirates looks amazing as the fight is taking place.

[RageArtworks]

WTF? I just found out about Pyrats a few mintues ago when I read this guy's (http://balak01.deviantart.com) journal!
Yup, that's awesome animation!

[elephant]

WTF? I just found out about Pyrats a few mintues ago when I read this guy's (http://balak01.deviantart.com) journal!
Yeah, there's quite a few of them gobelins-people on DeviantArt.

[KOTK]

WHOA!:eek: Those are really awesome animations. Pyrats will have to be the best followed by Burning Safari(LOL!).:cool:

These people need to mash a studio together and do a some 2D and 3D feature length movies.:cool:

[Sykohyko]

oh man!!! that's one awesome looking short......im inspired!!!

[Bandita]

I saw Pyrates at Annecy! It was sooo great; and the other Gobelins-Annecy shorts as well!!

[jackhalfaprayer]

I saw Pyrates at Annecy! It was sooo great; and the other Gobelins-Annecy shorts as well!!

lucky!;)

Pyrates blew my mind. Haven't seen hybrid 2d/3d like that since Ghibli and I.G

Inspirational- and pretty damn humbling. Back to work:D :D :D

[NOOB!]

lucky indeed,i want to go annecy,gotta brush up on my french though...bonjour?!?!:Xead:

btw,welcome bandita:)

[Simon Smith]

I cant believe how good these are! :eek: Well at least now i've got something to aspire too! WOW! Thanks Noob!

[fikey]

hi there
just want to say thank you about your greetings for our movie pyrats

some of you are asking about the 3d part and the render ... that was made using camera mapping in maya ...camera mapping is kind of a projector ,I painted a background that I projected using a camera in maya directly on the polygons ...cool thing is that it really look like 2d ,bad thing it's really painful to use

anyway ,I'm pleased you liked it

[NOOB!]

yeh i've tried that in maya b4,pretty annoying.

I'm interested to know where you guys used flash? I can't really tell,was it used just for the planning?

thanks for stopping by ben

[elephant]

thanks for stopping by ben
Ben Fiquet?! :blink:

I stopped by your website yesterday and I liked what I saw!
Say, how does it feel to be a part of the Gobelins? :p

[fikey]

elephant>thanks...part of gobelins ? I think it's the best school where I could have express myself ,that's it :)

noob> flash was used for making shadows of few scenes and the blood-FX at the last scene ... it was also used for making the very first animatic ... it's a tool that Yves is more convenient with

[Terro]

Thanks for answering my 3D question. Now I have another one. What was the inspiration behind Pyrats.

I don't mean to pry, it's just that it has that old school feel that I love so much.

It reminds me of the "Monkey Island" Lucas Art games the first time I laid eyes on it. You guys really put in a lot of work into making sure the detail fit. Great work indeed.

Where did the idea come from? What did you guys use for reference and inspiration?

[NOOB!]

:blink: i don't know how many times i've watched...can't wait to see more...hope u guys team up again,feel free to invite the rest of em over here ben,probably hard to contact right now :Xead:

[fikey]

terro> the inspiration? it was exactly last year at the same date ...we were in the annecy 2005 festival drinking a coffee with nicolas and we were thinking what kind of movie we could do for annecy 2006 (also as a student end of studies short) ...and he told me : "I have something in mind ,I would really love to make pirates ..." .....I was instantly seduced by the idea and giving him back a lot of concepts of pirates I wanted to see too... we submit to the others and they approved with enthusiasm
before that ,we had few other ideas but they were not as cool as some pirates attacking a fortress:)

I guess the principal inspiration was to make a movie that we would really want to wach as a spectator and have fun with.


3 of the members are really attached to the disney old school animation ,that's why we choose that style of design,animation and bg.... for the backgrounds ,we wanted to have something very mediteranean / spanish style on an island (especially because that was conquistadors who implanted there)

and lucasarts did the best games ever

noob> we're still at school till end of june ,they're very busy because we have to prepare portfolios and demoreels for professionnals ...I'm here because I take care of the website and people reffering to it.
I hope we could one day make a movie again,as free as we were

[NOOB!]

wow,well thanks for providing us with all this info,we appreciate it allot.Great job on the site,i hope u don't forget about us:p ,and keep us posted on any projects (team or personal,or if u get a job at disney:D ) and we'll be sure to put it on our news page.We're all about promoting new talent.

[KOTK]

Bring back that style my friend. Bring it back hard.

Great stuff!

[NOOB!]

fikey.....are these similar techniques/or are they the techniques you used for the houses in the fight scene

http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/2004/11/camera_projecti_1.html

http://www.a3d.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/maya/camera_projection.html

its a pretty amazing technique (goes to try,can't believe i've been sruggling to create something similar for so long now)

when i was watching juliens behind the scenes stuff i saw frames like this

http://www.animationforum.net/users/noob/files/huh.jpg

You guys also drew out colour guides for each frame??!!

[Simon Smith]

Thanks for the answers Ben. Your work is really insperational :)
How hard was it co-ordinating all the different animators, because it almost looks like each animator had there own charactor(s) that they where most involved with.

ALso, what fps where you working at, and any animated advice for the forum?

[elephant]

its a pretty amazing technique (goes to try)
Show us, too.

Ben, any personal projects you'd like to share with us?

[KOTK]

Show us, too.
Nubian's too lazy, heh.:D :p

[NOOB!]

theres a difference between being lazy and not wanting to post something until its finished..

[KOTK]

Just using some reverse psychology.;)

[NOOB!]

well it didn't work .....and now i'm gunna take longer and go to sleep just because of that.:p

[jackhalfaprayer]

Why use camera mapping (photogrammetry?) for a painted background? Why not texture it traditionally and just have painterly textures?

[NOOB!]

jack,it would be cos u wouldn't have to deal with lighting and all other issues,since the lighting is already in the projected image...i think...

[fikey]

oh so much questions!!!

noob & jack>yeah ,that's exactly this technique ...I used it because it's the best way for directly paint the background without thinking about textures or UV mapping

as you can see here ,a uv mapping is something very flat ,it's very hard to paint the geometry
http://joepekar.com/gallery/albums/album04/SoldierTextureMap.jpg

so I've paint something like that , similar to any backgrounds I've made for the movie ,I don't have to worry about edges or uv
http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/images/forBox.jpg

I used 4 cameras for each block of houses

simon>I think that was the most difficult part ,to coordinate each style of animation .We animate the scenes we wanted the most ,not by characters ...and you can see that model of every character is changing a little bit between scenes:(

ALso, what fps where you working at
sorry I don't understand ,my english is not as good as I would
, and any animated advice for the forum?
I'm just a student you know ,I have so much to learn before teachings some advices in animation

elephant>nicolas and me are currently trying to make a new personal project but I can't tell about it yet (and not before a year I think)

[KOTK]

FPS(Frames Per Second).:cool:

[Monsieur Rat]

Wow, just wow. That stuff is amazing, fresh, but nostalgic all the same. I really missed full features like this. I just re-watched The Great Mouse Detective, chilling feature for a Disney cartoon, truly poignant stuff.

I might sound ignorant asking this, but where in France is Gobelins situated (for I assume it's France, else Wallony)? And Noob, you know I could always offer up a few lessons en Français if you ever need to, say, pay a visit to the Gobelins campus. That's the perk to being a half-frog, I can wander regions of Belgium and France and communicate... though I get dirty looks in Paris and the Côte D'Azur because of my lame Canadian accent.

Man, I can't stop watching the stuff, it's really damn... amazing, and inspirational.

[NOOB!]

elephant>nicolas and me are currently trying to make a new personal project but I can't tell about it yet (and not before a year I think)

:(
we have to wait a year... :( :( :(

[Terro]

I once purchased Body Paint 2, from Maxon, it's like photoshop but for UV textures. It allows you to paint directly on the model it self, in multiple layers at the same time. So you can knock out the Bump Map, Reflections and the texture with the same stroke. Needless to say, I still found it more confusing then taking a UV map into photoshop, lol.

[jackhalfaprayer]

I might sound ignorant asking this, but where in France is Gobelins situated (for I assume it's France, else Wallony)?

If I'm not mistaken it's in Paris.

[Terro]

BTW: Since this thread was originated by Noob we had no one to give the Talent Award too, since then Fikey was kind enough to join us and do a little Q&A.

This is indeed a great work of art and you guys deserve a ton of props, but we can only affor to give you guys 2 http://www.animationforum.net/forum/images/awards/silver.gif Silver Point over here at AF and plug your animation into our banner rotation.

So thank you for the great show and congratulations.

Note: We have added your username to our Award Log. http://www.animationforum.net/forum/showthread.php?t=631

[Simon Smith]

Like Kave said, Fps is Frames Per Second.
Yes i can see that styles do change around, but it ceratinly doesn't detract from the animation. The fact that you can find faults with such a good animation, means you can only get better! :)

[Neo_Crisis]

:eek: I'm inspired. It's stuff like this that makes me want to be an animator.
Pyrats is amazing!!:Blahblahb I wish I could do something this great, from now on I'm going to push myself harder to become an better artist and try to be an animator. Now I got to watch the other shorts.:D

[fikey]

:eek: I'm inspired. It's stuff like this that makes me want to be an animator.

that's one of the best compliment I've ever heard

terro>thanks a lot ,I was not hoping for 2 silvers medals in coming here:)

we worked at 25fps especially for the sound design... the softwares used for the sound are set for a better quality at 25fps ,and it's now a "standart" in video edition... at the beginning ,the movie should have been in 35mm format which is at 24fps ,so we should have use a stretching-trick for passing it from 25 to 24 ....but the school decided to not put in 35mm for economical reasons (3000 $ a copy in 35mm)

and gobelins is situed in the center of paris

I have to leave you now ,I'm going to watch the match between france and corea ....GO FRAAANCE:)

[NOOB!]

lol,when u get back,tell us how you got your drawn animation to match up with the 3d camera moves.

yeh yeh go france,england sure have been a bit crap in this world cup:Xead:

[Bandita]

Hey Fikey,

I've sent you a personal message via AWN; I suppose you haven't read it yet.
I really like to know, how you did the shadows on the characters, cause in the linetests of your making of I saw no shadow-lines.
Did you animate them on extra-sheets??

Greetz and best wishes from Worldcup-crazy Germany

[fikey]

noob>for the 3d camera moves ,we printed every frames of the 3d layout and we used it as a base for 2d animation

bandita> sorry I didn't login on awn for a long time . For the shadows , we drew every shadows on extra sheets ....except for few scenes ,we used flash for few shadows
I didn't saw you at the auberge at annecy ,you should have come to see us.

for the worldcup ,I think we have the worst team ever (and the worst coach ever ) ... I will encourage germany now :D

[KOTK]

Henry and Zidane were crap. I hear Zidane is finishing soccer. Shame:(

[NOOB!]

fikey..is there any chance we can see the images you used for the projection? or are they a secret? :p

[sciboy]

Amazing and inspiring work fellas. :)

Final kick in the arse to finally build myself some real animation gear and stop neglecting my traditional animation.

Tip about the moving camera and 2d characters though, i usually find it helps a whole bunch for more advanced scenes if i put cubes in to the reference material representing the paths and positions of the characters so i can make sure there isn't any drifting, but i'm amazed how well you did without any markers of that sort.

Thank you so much for this amazing piece you guys produced, so many factors of it are part of what i aspire to be and being able to see that in motion is indescribable.

Looking forward to seeing and hearing more from you.

[NOOB!]

sci boy if u watch behind the scenes stuff they did actually use markers:rolleyes: :p ;)

[sciboy]

... :blink:
Well the rest of my post is still valid!

[meta]

what i can't believe is why dont you submit it to www.newgrounds.com everyone will get wet pants xD...

[KOTK]

NG doesn't deserve such great animation. *Lefts up nose in a posh manner* Hmph.:D

[Bandita]

Incredible.... France doesn't just have the best animation school/students but also one of the best soccer teams... France is in the final match.... ;)

[Kid Mesh]

I had a few questions for Fikey whenever he get's the chance to answer.

So I see that you guy's used CTP in your workflow for the film. In what manner was the sofware used? Pencil test? Painting? Etc.

The reason why am asking is two fold. Did you find that working with CTP very simple to use and would you recommend it for pencil tests and painting? Because I'm looking to purchase it over Digicel Flipbook.

Thanks and keep up the old school tradition….just awesome work!

[Kid Mesh]

Does anybody know what program was used when it came to painting the characters?

[NOOB!]

i don't think fikey is gunna return anytime soon to be honest mesh,they used a mixture of photoshop and ctp for the paint jobs on the chracters and bgs.