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flashcartoons
09-01-2006, 02:19 PM
watch my progress for this contest! i have no idea what im going to do yet

BUT ITS GONNA BE COOL!

UPDATE

well the cartoon is complete

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/338067

please everyone review, it would be much appreciated :)

vlasvlasvlas
09-01-2006, 08:59 PM
Good luck, Brother! (like desmond, from lost)

!!

:)

i'm participating also

let's make good transformations!!!

i have an idea, i'll be testing it tomorrow.!!!!



greetings from argentina!
vladi.
:)

flashcartoons
09-01-2006, 09:42 PM
i know what im going to do! im glad i thought about it

elephant
09-02-2006, 03:23 AM
Good luck, Brother! (like desmond, from lost)
Hah, I love that show. :p

I'll bee looking forward to your first attempts, Flash! :D

Terro
09-02-2006, 10:21 AM
Welcome to the contest Flash, best of luck.

flashcartoons
09-03-2006, 03:04 PM
character design

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/633/character1oc4.jpg

NOOB!
09-03-2006, 03:14 PM
lol! amusing character :D

flashcartoons
09-03-2006, 03:15 PM
she really does have arms and legs, im just working on them now :blink:

flashcartoons
09-05-2006, 10:11 AM
here is the logo for the character

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5337/littlely4.gif

NOOB!
09-05-2006, 10:20 AM
aaaawww how cute:p

flashcartoons
09-05-2006, 10:32 AM
not for long! just wait to see what happens!

Terro
09-05-2006, 11:03 AM
Haha, looking cute Flash. I can't wait to see what you have in store for her.

flashcartoons
09-05-2006, 12:38 PM
i never knew you thought i was cute :o

i think your cute too terro ;)

:D

Terro
09-05-2006, 12:50 PM
i never knew you thought i was cute :o

i think your cute too terro ;)

:D

Haha, you know what I meant.:eek:

dlpwillywonka
09-06-2006, 09:29 AM
I think we know ALL to well what you mean Terro. You are one sick puppy.

flashcartoons
09-06-2006, 09:43 AM
the greatest joy i get out of animating is bringing a character to life, little sally was just a thought in my head, now i got her walking, talking and gave her LIFE.

sometimes when making cartoons i feel like Dr. Frankenstein

ITS ALIVE! ITS ALIVE! my creation :blink:

NOOB!
09-06-2006, 09:48 AM
talk is trash mutherf**ker lets see!!!!!!!!

:blink: heheh,i need to get back to mine!

flashcartoons
09-06-2006, 12:03 PM
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8763/sallysmilezz3.jpg

here she is in full, im hoping to have this done this weekend, ive been working alot on it in my free time

bleupencil
09-06-2006, 12:51 PM
Adorable! Looking forward to seeing her in motion :)

flashcartoons
09-06-2006, 01:17 PM
thanks alot, i have 50sec of animation already, but i JUST CANT SHOW PREVIEW! i want to show the whole thing complete! im just itchin' to show tho willy has seen a preview :p

NOOB!
09-06-2006, 01:20 PM
posting progress is all part of the process.the judges are interesting in seeing how u get from one point to another.

and people can also offer u feedback on what they like and dislike so u can improve as an animator ;)

flashcartoons
09-06-2006, 01:23 PM
oh fine! (hit play, preview is for testing purposes)

http://www.flashcartoons.org/version7/littlesallysue.swf

voice actor: willy & my gf
music by: my buddy travis

NOOB!
09-06-2006, 01:29 PM
hahaha thats excellent!!:D sum of ur best stuff here flash!

flashcartoons
09-06-2006, 01:30 PM
im trying REALLY hard on this one :)

winadollar
09-06-2006, 01:32 PM
oh fine! (hit play, preview is for testing purposes)

http://www.flashcartoons.org/version7/littlesallysue.swf

voice actor: willy & my gf
music by: my buddy travis


wow that was awesome man

flashcartoons
09-06-2006, 01:39 PM
thanks :D im very glad you like it

i have more animation done than that, but im at work and this is the only scene i have uploaded

pixelmark
09-06-2006, 01:43 PM
Great work! You have a nice sense of movement timing! My only suggestion (and this is only a suggestion so take it or leave it as you see fit), is that maybe her feet should swing back and forth when she is in the stall. Everything moves very well and then just stops there, y'know? Oh, and also how the hell did you embed the swf file? I'm an idiot and can't seem to figure that out...:rolleyes:

Terro
09-06-2006, 01:43 PM
Very nice apprach flash, it has a lot of that documentary style humor in it. You're very good at that. 2 Thumbs up.

flashcartoons
09-06-2006, 01:44 PM
they have a insert flash button in this forum then you just link your swf file like:

http://www.yoursite.com/files/yourcartoon.swf

and i think im going to try ur suggestion

NOOB!
09-06-2006, 01:49 PM
maybe her feet should swing back and forth when she is in the stall. :

this a good suggestion,its a bit static in that scene at the moment flash,have her feet moving.

u see? feedback already:D

flashcartoons
09-06-2006, 01:57 PM
ill do that tonight :)

flashcartoons
09-07-2006, 08:29 AM
NEW PREVIEW!! fixed her feet, fixed a few little things, added 25 sec of animation

http://www.flashcartoons.org/version7/littlesallysue2.swf

and why does it stretch my movie is only 550x

dlpwillywonka
09-07-2006, 08:35 AM
Great job. I wanna see the transformation! :)

NOOB!
09-07-2006, 08:40 AM
thats disturbing...:blink:

flashcartoons
09-07-2006, 08:41 AM
transformation is next! and im glad it brings out emotions noob, otherwise it would be a dull cartoon ;)

bleupencil
09-07-2006, 08:42 AM
Hmm... bathrooms and transformations could make strangebedfellows O_o

Good stuff so far though :)

flashcartoons
09-07-2006, 08:46 AM
whats strangebedfellows? i looked it up and it was a movie about gay guys avoiding tax laws?

bleupencil
09-07-2006, 08:50 AM
LOL!!!!!1!!11!!

I just meant it as a figure of speech... (curse my bad typing late at night. It's meant to be "strange bedfellows"). Basically I meant that it seems like an odd mix, that's all.

flashcartoons
09-07-2006, 08:53 AM
oooo, well dont worry sally will be fine

cant say much for the bullys tho ;)

NOOB!
09-07-2006, 09:43 AM
hey flash,about the forum stretching the size,both tags are set to a certain height and width,something to do about forum safety (ask terro)

eventually we'll have a scroll down menu where u can pick sizes.

flashcartoons
09-07-2006, 09:50 AM
we should be able to [swf width=x height=y like some forums do :p

NOOB!
09-07-2006, 09:53 AM
thats the thing about forum safety i was talking about,allowing users to do that is considered unsafe,and could mess up the forum according to terro.

I really don't much about it,so i trust that he is right.

dlpwillywonka
09-07-2006, 09:59 AM
by unsafe i think he's talking about the flash pushing the measurements of the forums all out of whack. Cuz right now it's a constrained nicely organized down the center of the page. not try and force a 720x480 movie in this space and it'll shove things off.

flashcartoons
09-07-2006, 10:02 AM
ok well back on topic!

here is a quick 2 sec sketch of what the final tranformation will look like

http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/853/transformedaf5.jpg

dlpwillywonka
09-07-2006, 10:12 AM
Great Design. So that's where the wild things are. :-D

flashcartoons
09-07-2006, 11:04 AM
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/2315/transformed2bs0.jpg

head done! anyway im off to get flash 8! finally.. no more using the first flashmx

flashcartoons
09-08-2006, 02:28 PM
here is my mouse drawn transformation sequence, now i just have to incorperate it into the toon

http://www.flashcartoons.org/version7/transformedto.swf

NOOB!
09-08-2006, 02:54 PM
haha nice could be a bit longer though! up to u!!

flashcartoons
09-08-2006, 02:58 PM
now that ive stared at it on the forums grey background i see i have some touch ups to do

longer! she has stop the bad guys! *cough* eat them *cough*

NOOB!
09-08-2006, 03:16 PM
lol the contest is called transformation after all,its the main thing u shud focus on,i know your in a hurry to make a movie,but consider the theme :p not asking for a glen keane beauty and the beast masterpiece.

anyway just continue as u planned,looking foward to this finished ness!

flashcartoons
09-08-2006, 03:45 PM
thanks man will do, bet you didnt knwo but this took me 4 hours to finish

it wasnt a easy task! but im very happy with the end result, its the first time i ever did something like this

NOOB!
09-08-2006, 04:11 PM
hmmm now u have like a month and a half of waiting hehehe:eek:

flashcartoons
09-08-2006, 04:23 PM
im not done tho! this weekend im shooting for it being done

winadollar
09-08-2006, 04:35 PM
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/2315/transformed2bs0.jpg

head done! anyway im off to get flash 8! finally.. no more using the first flashmx
nice ness dawg

flashcartoons
09-10-2006, 08:37 PM
well the cartoon is complete

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/338067

please everyone review, it would be much appreciated :)

Monsieur Rat
09-11-2006, 01:10 AM
Wow, that was blunt and beautiful :P I love the subtle working in of the Golden Apple, infinately inventive there buddy.

flashcartoons
09-11-2006, 08:02 AM
hey thanks! i was going to make it a street sign

hehe

geomeliss
09-11-2006, 08:42 AM
As a newcomer I want to say hello to everyone and good luck with the competition !the idea of the transformation is great. The selection of the prizes is good as well.I am really tempted to participate...

flashcartoons
09-11-2006, 09:28 AM
why just be tempted, give it a try! im sure im not gonna win, but atleast i got some good crituqes from everyone here

ive learned alot from this forum, very glad i joined, you will be too :o

vicjperry
09-11-2006, 10:50 AM
Absolutely! Jump in by all means. The more the merrier and it's true that we all learn from each other. Let 'er rip!:D

flashcartoons
09-11-2006, 11:32 AM
what do you think of sally sue vic, i finished it?

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/338067

vicjperry
09-11-2006, 11:57 AM
I think it's great. I just think you should have let Sue beat the **** out of those bullies for an hour. Great work!:D

flashcartoons
09-11-2006, 12:08 PM
i was thinking of just that! and making a part 2 to do it all!

depending on if everyone likes it enough :cool:

bleupencil
09-11-2006, 04:51 PM
Ahahaha! She's fricking psychotic, I love it!
It's like Dog Soldiers meets Monsters Inc or something.

I'm not sure about those bullies though. I probably would have made them more somewhat closer to her age. It just doesn't make sense to me that two guys who look like they're in their 20's would bully one so young (though I'm sure it's been known to happen). That and the fact that to me, through their acting, they come across as kind of creepy.

Well, that is only my oh-so-humble opinion anyway ;)
Good work, Flash!

NOOB!
09-12-2006, 04:39 PM
to put it blunty and to pick up on bleu is trying to say,they look and sound like fricken phedo's

which is y i said "thats disturbing* when i first saw that clip.

anyway it nice all round.keep it up!

flashcartoons
09-12-2006, 04:55 PM
woohoo!! http://www.newgrounds.com i made front page!!!!

also its on www.flashplayer.com

vicjperry
09-12-2006, 05:44 PM
You lucky $%^(#@$!!!!! I've been trying for a year for that spot! Congrats indeed!

flashcartoons
09-12-2006, 06:38 PM
ive been trying for 6 years! ive gotten it a dozen times

but i would rather get awards, then just front page

but i feel i am getting better so soon

dlpwillywonka
09-12-2006, 06:38 PM
Congratulations Flash! Now get to work on your next project!

flashcartoons
09-12-2006, 06:40 PM
i need a day break! im going to finish the paris hilton one, then maybe another but i got a good idea for a good voice over one soon!

NOOB!
09-13-2006, 04:53 AM
but i feel i am getting better so soon

thanks to?

flashcartoons
09-13-2006, 08:03 AM
this forum :cool: but hey give credit to the animation and drawing books too!

KOTK
09-13-2006, 10:08 AM
No offense, but you should have spent more time on the actual transformation.:cool:

themonkmob
09-13-2006, 09:46 PM
OK. I don't any one has critiqued it yet, so I'm gonna go and try.

I thought you could spent A LOT more time into the animation, we have about two months to do it, now I understand that you weren't procrastinating, but it is in a sense not taking full opportunity of what you could have made within the two month limit.

Also, I thought the audio and scriptwriting aspect was weak. The audio of the narrarator was probably the best part, because he had a neutral feel to the story and it really wasn't out there. Otherwise, it just seemed the person you got for Sally Sue really didn't try to PUSH the fact that she is a bit more cynical than regular girls. You tried to do that, I award you for that, but I think you could have pushed it more. Also, the bullies audio was weak too, the black guys voice fit the character somewhat, otherwise the white guys didn't. Going to the story - I noticed you tried to make it a bit funny in the beginning with the bathroom, I think I've tried that once....a long time ago. What you were missing there was timing.

That should have been short and sweet and to the point, instead it was a bit long and I think you tried to underestimate your audience by you thinking that they wouldn't have enough time to get the joke. Also, the girls voice while in the bathroom kinda sounded like "well I don't really have to many 'pausing' humming noises, so im just going to make this awkward" So I think you should fix up the timing on that.

Also, PUSH THE CYNICISM OF THE GIRL!

Some turning studies would do too, like when the girl walked it seemed awkward like sometimes you see cartoons where they don't exactly feel like turning the character, instead that just make it jump up and down while facing you. It's just weak animation.

I think you need to spend a helluva lot of time creating a mood/scene where the girl can be pushed to the fullest. And also? Don't you have to incorporate a golden apple? I may have missed it, otherwise, it doesn't fit the discription.

You've got the rough story down, thats good. Just define more. :D

flashcartoons
09-14-2006, 08:01 AM
thanks for the critique, i know most of what you say is right, i am still learning about animation from this forum, you should see some of my first stuff, you did miss the golden apple watch again :)

the narrator is actually a member of this forum, he did do a great job i did the best i could for the story i came up with in a day dream. If i do expand the sally sue story (i might) i will try harder :p

themonkmob
09-14-2006, 01:41 PM
Cool! Thats great!

NOOB!
09-14-2006, 01:45 PM
thats a great crit monk.

I did suggest that in the begginging he should spend a little longer whole thing,and focus more on the transformation...*2 months flash!!* lol

but its up to the animator in the end.Keep that crit in mind for next time flash ;)

flashcartoons
09-14-2006, 01:55 PM
2 months is just to long for me, i want to have atleast 3 cartoons a month to add and that was sallys story

dont worry my next cartoons will be good! :cool:

NOOB!
09-14-2006, 01:57 PM
t0o long? good work takes time,if ur gunna have that attitude then u'll improve veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery slowly ;)

flashcartoons
09-14-2006, 02:29 PM
well from when i started making cartoons, i would make them quicker and half ass, now i spend more time

i mean seriously 12-48 hours on a cartoon is alot compared to how i used to only spend 6-10

right now im going on 7 hours on this (SECRET) production and i only got 49 seconds done

honestly if someone is working 2 months to complete a cartoon, are how many hours you think? usually most dont even work on it dayly so say 1hr a day 4 times a week for 2 months equals out to 32 hours

most have jobs and stuff to do, i just spend entire days on them :p

NOOB!
09-14-2006, 02:37 PM
you have lots to learn flash.

pixelmark
09-14-2006, 05:38 PM
This may be a bit off topic, but you really have some great promotional skills! I like how you put the AF contest big at the end, and are getting this put out to cartoon sites!!

P.S. on the Newgrounds thing, have you put a lot of time in at the forums there promoting your cartoon to get voting stirred up? Just curious if getting voting momentum in the forums is almost a requirement as opposed to just putting it out...?

flashcartoons
09-14-2006, 05:45 PM
i think my post count on newgrounds is around 10 posts total since 2001

i just submit it everywhere i can! and hope somewhere it does well

and that was one of my main goals to get people to see the contest with this toon :eek:

Viano
09-30-2006, 03:32 PM
Hey, i love her transformation concept . Lol so twisted, and lol, unexpected i like it. buttttttt it feels longer than 60 seconds. =\

I mean..are we allowed to make this entry more than 60 seconds!?!?!

I remember reading that 60 seconds was the max, i know i saw that some where.

why is this more than 60 seconds?

and i LOVE thee end hahah, "my home =("

okay. im just a little confused.

whats going on?

vicjperry
09-30-2006, 06:25 PM
Well, I watched "Sixty Minutes" explaining how quick sixty seconds was. According to Sixty Minutes, sixty seconds was plenty to display sixty seconds of animation. They said out of sixty animation contests, there were sixty second place entries who had sixty second entries, Sixty second place prizes of sixty second animations, equals sixty, second place seconds at sixty frames per second. I think sixty is sexy!

flashcartoons
09-30-2006, 09:25 PM
Well, I watched "Sixty Minutes" explaining how quick sixty seconds was. According to Sixty Minutes, sixty seconds was plenty to display sixty seconds of animation. They said out of sixty animation contests, there were sixty second place entries who had sixty second entries, Sixty second place prizes of sixty second animations, equals sixty, second place seconds at sixty frames per second. I think sixty is sexy!

MY BRAIN HURTS!!!!! :eek: